Since one of the persistant facts and issues in the debate around ESG Ratings is the dispertion of scores regulation could usefully force public disclosure of headline scores by all ratings agencies. Methodology, due diligence, proprietary analysis and reasoning would remain pay walled and is after all necessary for any investment use of ratings. Public disclosure would then enable the extent of disparity among ratings to be a stimulant to deeper understanding of the rating challenges and allow third parties to have an appropriate level of critical challenge on the value and use of the ratings. An analogy here is the utility of looking at the spread of financial forecasts in understanding the importance of underlying assumptions and where there is professional dispute over what drives a rating.
Original Message:
Sent: 14-07-2023 14:24
From: James Doyle
Subject: How regulated should the ESG ratings market be?
Andy - completely agree both a code and regulation is needed.
Some of the earlier comments around trust in data is also important and responsibility along the value chain of information also needs to be considered. In particular, in the context of regulated firms and individuals as investment managers or providing financial advice, including MiFID suitability and product governance requirements, investors need accurate and reliable ESG data for their investment decisions etc. Some of these considerations are raised in PIMFA's response to HMT's consultation, including ESG data providers (extract copied below).
Secondly, a recent study and whitepaper I came across from Clarity AI shows some concerning differences around reported Scope 1 GHG emissions data amongst 3 leading ESG data providers (this is the easier ESG data to collect, let alone reliability and consistency of Scope 3 reported data) Case Study | The 'E' in ESG: Sourcing Reliable Data:
· 13% of data points showed a discrepancy of >20% on Co2 Scope 1 reported emissions data (compared 6500 companies over 5 years, and 30,000 data points); reliability issues were found in 42% of data points where the differences were >1%
Finally, the UN PRI has recently produced a Investor Needs Data Framework on understanding data needs for responsible investors, including the importance of reliable data and expectations around assurance and data quality in terms of fair representation, comparability, and verifiability DRIVING MEANINGFUL DATA Understanding the data needs of responsible investors: The PRI's investor data needs framework
Regards
James
PIMFA's response to HMT's consultation on the Future regulatory regime for Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) ratings providers
Description of ESG ratings - extend regulation to include data providers
We broadly agree with HM Treasury's proposal that an ESG rating in the context of a new regulated activity would cover an assessment regarding one or more environmental, social, and governance factors, whether or not it is labelled as such. However, we also have concerns regarding the proposal
to exclude raw ESG data, i.e. data that is minimally processed where no separate assessment is provided, which would also exclude estimates and proxy data. With best practice evolving and new standards developing at rapid pace, there appears to be an assumption amongst the regulators that data quality and availability will improve over time. This consultation refers to IOSCO guidance which notes that firms should rely on their own due diligence
as to the accuracy of data provided by third parties and the policies they have around capturing and processing data. The expectation is that mandatory disclosures by real world companies will become standard in future, with ISSB standards and audited data, and that many of the issues around data
quality will be minimised. However, the eco-system is not complete yet.
There is an issue of data liability to be addressed and dependency on third party providers for ESG related data by financial institutions and responsibility within the overall value chain. Raw ESG data that is consumed by firms in their investment process relies on the provision from multiple third-party
data providers for thousands of listed and unlisted securities and associated ESG data attributes which are growing exponentially. This calls for clarity regarding the liability for the data. ESG ratings and data providers should have some responsibility and liability for passing on public information and financial institutions should be able to rely on this information for the provision of services and data they pay for.
Wealth managers and financial advisors have an obligation to provide suitable investment advice and ongoing suitability assessment regarding investment decisions in accordance with a client's investment risk appetite, objectives, and individual preferences. There are potential regulatory and legal risks, and
liability for actions taken for making investment decisions and recommendations based on poor raw data, even if this is supposedly less complicated type of data. The responsibility for processed data should be with those distributing it i.e., ESG ratings and data providers.
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James Doyle
Director, Green Finance, Investment Management
Original Message:
Sent: 13-07-2023 15:38
From: Andrew Burton
Subject: How regulated should the ESG ratings market be?
Hi Chris,
I completely agree that not all ratings should be the same and that also that there should be room for different ESG ratings methodologies. We made this point several times in
our response to HM Treasury.
I agree that a code of conduct is also useful as it can span borders which have different regulations and complement them by providing a light overlay, such as that achieved by IOSCO's 4 principles.
However, codes are aspirational and principles-based and there are plenty of examples where the existence of a code has failed to prevent or dissuade malpractice. They lack the power of enforcement and accountability.
In this thought leadership piece,
'Codes, Standards & Regulations', CFA UK explains how regulation and codes can work together, with standards, to best achieve good conduct and behaviour.
The role of regulation is to ensure the delivery of baseline expectations, the purpose of the code is to set the highest standards for practioners to aim for whilst standards get into the technical detail of what they should be doing.
If done poorly, regulation could stifle creativity. But if done well, innovation should still be allowed to flourish, bad practice rooted out and consumers protected from it. To me the answer is a code AND regulation, not one or the other.
Andy
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Andrew Burton
Professionalism Advisor
Original Message:
Sent: 13-07-2023 13:58
From: Christopher Wigley
Subject: How regulated should the ESG ratings market be?
Hi Everyone,
Just a few personal thoughts on ESG ratings, if it is not too late
I am not in favour of too much regulation
Climate Change is a huge challenge. Consequently, innovation is highly prized
Whatever developments emerge, they should be flexible enough to allow for innovation
I prefer voluntary codes which can be updated quite swiftly. ICMA Green Bond Principles I think is a good example of increasing standards without stifling innovation
I believe ESG rating agencies need to differentiate themselves from each other. It is a competitive marketplace. They need to innovate to have an edge on their competition. Clients will follow if there are good ideas, processes, etc
All ESG rating agencies should not be the same. Otherwise they will all follow the herd and make the same mistakes
Certainly, there should be transparency over methodologies, with good governance, Codes of conduct, etc
Nothing is perfect. All we can do is keep moving in the right direction and constantly improve
Innovation with constant improvement is the best way to address our huge challenges such as climate change in my opinion
Just my personal thoughts
Hope it helps a bit
Chris
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Original Message:
Sent: 7/10/2023 10:39:00 AM
From: Ina Yurieva Ivanova
Subject: RE: How regulated should the ESG ratings market be?
Voluntary codes of conduct are great to have, but shouldn't be solely relied upon.
Much wider regulation is needed to help bridge the methodology gap between different providers and ensure as much standartization as possible. This will increase the trust from both investors and companies who would be able to clearly read signals on ESG matters.
Definitely a hot topic for regulators as they are trying lay the groundwork for implementation.
On a related note, The Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) has similarly proposed a code of conduct for ESG Ratings and Data Providers.
It will establish minimum industry standards for transparency in methodologies and data sources, governance, and conflicts of interest.
https://financefeeds.com/singapores-mas-proposes-code-of-conduct-for-esg-ratings-and-data-products/
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Ina Yurieva Ivanova
Associate Director
Original Message:
Sent: 05-07-2023 12:54
From: Katy Husband
Subject: How regulated should the ESG ratings market be?
An article in the FT yesterday 'Rating the ESG rating agencies' detailed academics responses to challenges facing the ESG rating agencies, and concludes that regulatory actions are needed to standardise reporting, maintain a competitive market, emphasise transparency, address conflicts of interest and refine methodologies.
Today the ICMA and International Regulatory Strategy Group (IRSG)'s ESG Data and Ratings Working Group (DRWG) released a Draft Voluntary Code of Conduct for ESG Ratings and Data Product Providers for consultation. The 6 key principles include good governance, securing quality, conflicts of interest, transparency, confidentiality and engagement. Is this the answer the academics were looking for?
Sacha Sadan, the FCA director of ESG, said "today is an important step in increasing transparency and trust in the growing market for ESG data and ratings products." The draft voluntary code's creator, the ESG DRWG, is chaired by M&G and Moody's, and its vice chairs are from LSEG and Slaughter and May.
On Monday, Indian regulators adopted official regulation for ESG ratings providers, among the first countries to adopt mandatory regulations.
So my questions to you are: can a self-regulated model work? Do voluntary codes go far enough to increase trust in the market? How long until regulators step and and implement mandatory standards in UK ESG ratings markets? Interested to hear thoughts!
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Katy Husband
ESG Ratings Analyst
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